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Phoenix, 24 Upper East Smithfield, Aldgate
At 16 Upper East Smithfield in 1851 & earlier
A listing of historical public houses,
Taverns, Inns, Beer Houses and Hotels in Aldgate - St Botolphs, London. The
Aldgate , London listing uses information from census, Trade
Directories and History to add licensees, bar staff, Lodgers and Visitors.
The
following entries are in this format:
Year/Publican
or other Resident/Relationship to Head and or Occupation/Age/Where Born/Source.
1839/John
Maxwell/../../../Pigots
Directory
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1841/Jno Maxwell/../../../Post
Office Directory
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1851/Wm Richard
Maxwell/../../../Post
Office Directory
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1856/Wm Morgan/../../../Post
Office Directory
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In 1857, Edith Emma Morgan
was born here (she was the daughter of William Simeon Morgan Vic.) He is a
visitor here in the 1861 census - widower (this is William Simeon Morgan), He
is later at the
New York
Stores ***
William has brothers
Alfred B Morgan at the
Royal Oak, and Edward Morgan at
the Three Crowns ***
1861/Frederick Soames/Victualler/32/Mendlesham,
Suffolk/Census
1861/William Morgan/Victualler, Visitor, Widower/34/Abargavenny,
Monmouthshire/Census
1861/Ann Hale/Cook/70/Ilington, Hertfordahire/Census
1861/James Crane/Barman/21/Bristol, Somersetshire/Census
1861/Margaret Hayes/Housemaid/18/Woolwich, Kent/Census
1869/John Goy/../../../Post
Office Directory
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1871/John Goy/Licensed Victualler/42/North
Hypeham, Lincoln/Census
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1871/Elizabeth Goy/Wife/42/Lincoln/Census
1871/Anna E Goy/Daughter/15/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/John Rd Goy/Son/12/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/Ellen Goy/Daughter/10/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/William Goy/Son/6/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/Joseph Goy/Son/4/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/William Kempton/Servant/42/../Census
1882/Jno
Maxwell/../../../Post
Office
Directory
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1882/John
Goy/../../../Post
Office
Directory
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1884/John
Goy/../../../Post
Office
Directory
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1891/John Goy/../../../Post
Office Directory
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1891/Frederick W Gill/Publican/35/Lambeth,
London/Census ****
1891/Augustus E Gill/Son, Barman/13/Wandsworth, London/Census
1891/George E Willers/Barman/19/Stepney, London/Census
1891/Walter H Swainson/Barman/15/Bermondsey, London/Census
1895/Edward
Wm Harris/../../../Post
Office
Directory
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1899/John
Sanders/../../../Post
Office
Directory
****
1903-1909/Ernest
Edwin Askins/../../../..
**
The "Phoenix", 24 Upper East
Smithfield was run by our great grandfather Ernest Albert
Askins in 1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1907,1908, 1909. Possibly he had
taken over the pub a year earlier. Unfortunately we do not have the legal
proof as all the local magistrates records for this period have been
lost. **
When Ernest Albert Askins
died on the 20th March 1909 the licence was possibly taken over by
his second wife Mimi Mary Askins whom he had married in 1904,
after his first wife Margaret died; or by his eldest son Ernest
Edwin Askins **
We believe that Ernest Edwin held
the licence until Ernest Edwin's youngest brother
Sidney Askins could take over the licence around 1911/12 We are not
sure of the actual transfer date because of the loss of the local magistrates
records. After leaving the "Phoenix" Ernest Edwin
Askins and his wife Elizabeth then moved out of
London to take over the "Albert"
in Witham [follow link]. Here again the Essex Magistrates records were
lost so we don't know the exact take over date. **
The Phoenix was
destroyed during the war and now, no. 24 is a pharmacy. **
When our grandfather Ernest Edwin
Askins reported his father's death to the authorities in 1909, he
gave his address as 115, Curtain Road, Shoreditch. This is the address of the Marquis of Cornwallis.
Now, whether he ran this pub or was just staying / working there we do not
know. **
As far as we know he moved away from
London to Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire sometime after September 1904.
Certainly in May 1907 he was running the "Plough" at Fen Ditton. The exact
length of his stay at the "Plough" we have not yet researched. By March 1909
he had moved back to London, to the Marquis of Cornwallis. **
In 1902 the PO directory gave
Ernest Edwin Askins as the LV of the
Watermans Arms, 92,
Wapping High Street. He had moved there from the
Town of Ramsgate which, at
that time, was being run by his father Ernest Albert Askins
and before that by his father in law Thomes Willets. **
1910/Ernest
Edwin Askins/../../../Post
Office
Directory
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1914/James
Batchelor/../../../Post
Office
Directory
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1915/James
Batchelor/../../../Post
Office
Directory
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1921/Sidney
Askins/../../../Post
Office Directory
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1934/Mrs Grace E Daines/../../../Kellys
Directory
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1938/Mrs Grace E
Daines/../../../Post
Office
Directory
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**
Provided by
John Askins
*** Provided By Raymond Morgan
**** Provided By
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Updated in April 2008 by Kevan.
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